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Longasc · May 10, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

You needed an awful lot of thought to come to the conclusion that it is almost impossible to max this title.

Some new food for thought, it is thought as a chewing bone for people to do something till GW2, even if it is really a bit pointless and rather primitive.

Frank Dudenstein · May 10, 2008, 01:40 PM // 13:40

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Originally Posted by Longasc

You needed an awful lot of thought to come to the conclusion that it is almost impossible to max this title.

You and I know that .. but alot of casual gamers don't. I thought it would be fun to present the actual numbers (I had fun doing it anyway).

Besides, I think it WILL be maxed, probably by more than one person, and probably faster than we think. People can become pretty darned complulsive about things like this ...

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Originally Posted by Longasc

Some new food for thought, it is thought as a chewing bone for people to do something till GW2, even if it is really a bit pointless and rather primitive.

And this is different from any other video game how?

~ Dan ~ · May 10, 2008, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by Frank Dudenstein

Nothing in PvE takes a great deal of skill ... and Anet wanted to make a Emote/Title accessible to PvE. Hence an emote that doesn't require alot of skill.

HM would've been the only viable title to link an emote to.

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Whats the problem with that?

The problem occurs when said rich pve'ers buy something and think they are better than everyone else. Bragging rights should be earnt.

Frank Dudenstein · May 10, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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The problem occurs when said rich pve'ers buy something and think they are better than everyone else. Bragging rights should be earnt.

That made me LoL. Show me a title in this game that isn't Grind > Skill. There isn't one. (maybe Champ at one point, but not anymore).

The new title is fun ... because there are lots of ways to work on it. I think its great.

NeHoMaR · May 10, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Here the list of people able to make this title:

- Good and constant PvPer.
- Gold buyer (for real money, and with 15.000$?)
- Exploiter (for example the old monk UW farming getting hundreds of ectos per day, and many other farming and bug exploits)

There aren't too much people in that 3 categories.

X Tigercat X · May 10, 2008, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Frank Dudenstein

What about Hero battles?
Finishing in the top few spots of a Daily HB can earn you 50+ RP, and it is easy to do two (or even three) tournaments per day.

That was only in April because their were double rewards in April. Now the max is between 30-35 rps an AT.

nice forum though pretty interesting. I have a few ideas of ppl who could get r12 like eke

Steboy93 · May 10, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Well the good news is this isn't another easily bought(maxed) title that gives +1 to KoaBD. Only a few people will ever get max rank(or near it) imo.

The amount of gold/faction this would take is truly astonishing.

~ Dan ~ · May 10, 2008, 02:46 PM // 14:46

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Originally Posted by Frank Dudenstein

That made me LoL. Show me a title in this game that isn't Grind > Skill. There isn't one. (maybe Champ at one point, but not anymore).

I don't remember telling you there is such a title. At one point, all PvP titles required skill. Now, they can be button mashed or bought off Ebay via buying accounts.

Today, no title does really require alot of skill. That is why the title system in GW outright fails. You simply outlined in your own post that GW is now grind > skill. What a lovely game!

Ec]-[oMaN · May 10, 2008, 02:51 PM // 14:51

Surely there has to be leet PVE'ers out there with 60+mill gold, it's just a matter of time, buying the keys, and opening the chest...

Proff · May 10, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

An interesting read but you fail to mention the cash return the keys bring in. Since you need 100m to max the title you'd easily get a 33% return on the keys maybe even a 50% return meaning you only need 50m gold or 50k rep points and with the new items being available for 1 month at a time the return might be higher.

Kaida the Heartless · May 10, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Even considering that RP and Balth are gained hand in hand, this title is still unachievable before gw2.

10 Keys a day will still take 2.7 years to max. Wow.

komma · May 10, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

nice break down, not a title of interest for myself.

Winterclaw · May 10, 2008, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Yeay more title grind?

Anyways, did it ever occur to some of you that Anet might have put in the title specifically to make it very difficult or impossible to max out? This looks like it is meant for either a very rich PvEer or an extremely dedicated PvPer. Frankly it's fine they put in a few titles like this.

jiggles · May 10, 2008, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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The problem occurs when said rich pve'ers buy something and think they are better than everyone else. Bragging rights should be earnt.

because anet went to every single pve'er gave them about 100mil and said 'shushh dont tell the pvp'ers?' thought so, making money in pve isnt the simplest thing on the planet. before ursan (no im not going to whine about it) alot of people had ALOT of money anyways and to get that they put alot of time and effort into the game.

and as for the dude that said about a title that isnt grind>skill. The gamer title track, if you leech in any of the matches your team is going to lose, and if your terrible your team is going to lose. last dragon arena i saw alot of r2's and r3's and when i saw them play wondered how the bloody hell they got that title.

Frank Dudenstein · May 10, 2008, 03:05 PM // 15:05

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

Here the list of people able to make this title:

- Good and constant PvPer.
- Gold buyer (for real money, and with 15.000$?)
- Exploiter (for example the old monk UW farming getting hundreds of ectos per day, and many other farming and bug exploits)

Was there really a time when people made hundreds of ecto per day? I never got into farming (once I tried PvP the PvE became pretty uninteresting) so I'm kind of uninformed. If that is true and there are people sitting on inventories full of ecto, then someone will do it. It will be a royal pain turning all that ecto into keys, but its attainable.

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Surely there has to be leet PVE'ers out there with 60+mill gold, it's just a matter of time, buying the keys, and opening the chest...

If you really had that much would you blow it ALL on one title?

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An interesting read but you fail to mention the cash return the keys bring in. Since you need 100m to max the title you'd easily get a 33% return on the keys maybe even a 50% return meaning you only need 50m gold or 50k rep points and with the new items being available for 1 month at a time the return might be higher.

An excellent point though I was under the impression that the return was MUCH lower .... all I've ever gotten is worthless crap .. though I guess one item could change that.

jiggles · May 10, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by Frank Dudenstein

Was there really a time when people made hundreds of ecto per day? I never got into farming (once I tried PvP the PvE became pretty uninteresting) so I'm kind of uninformed. If that is true and there are people sitting on inventories full of ecto, then someone will do it.

very very very very very first bunch of 55hp monks, the ones that costed about 300k to buy the equip for, they used a prot bond build. then anet smashed it with their favourite hammer and introduced dying nightmares to the uw, and so the next bunch of cheaper 55's came along. but the very first bunch did make thousands of ectos and probably sold them for 10k ea.

Ekelon · May 10, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

GvGers get 4500x8 reward points and the winning hero battler only gets 1500. The winner of the hero battle AT should get twice as much as in GvG (like between 9000-10000 rp), since only one person gets it.

borik oakwood · May 10, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Affect on other titles:

i mean we get unided golds sweets alchohol from this thing what affect is it going to have on those titles ?

and also The gold req 9 weapons can be sold for like 25k minimum so get abit of cash back.

Red Sonya · May 10, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

R9 has already been posted and I don't really see why people automatically start calculating how long it will take to get MAX rank. What does it matter if YOU will not attain it. That doesn't mean others won't. Everything isn't meant to be obtained in a day a month or a year even. Some things most people will never attain. It would be very EASY to get someone an R12 though by merely giving all ones keys from a guild to that one person. Not very likely to happen, but, considering say a family is playing in a guild you could have 4 5 6 who knows how many in that guild giving up their keys to that one person to gain them R12. So not attainable? hardly It doesn't really matter anyways since it's only an emote. I'd be pretty happy having rank 1 that's all I need to drive a spear into a rangers or assassins butt.

Titles are things to attain over time perhaps a long long time for most and I'm pretty sure everyone that wants it will achieve rank 1 and I doubt we're going to get calls for grouping Looking for R7 Zashien rank only. lol How rediculous.

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The problem occurs when said rich pve'ers buy something and think they are better than everyone else. Bragging rights should be earnt.

And how do you think they got RICH they had to EARNT it. lol If you've EARNT the money in the game you certainly have the right to spend it in the game for things you want in the game. Not everyone is a gold buyer who is rich. Now I shall make my way to buy my 20000 keys and be famous and have R12 in a year or so. haha

Frank Dudenstein · May 10, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

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Originally Posted by jiggles

very very very very very first bunch of 55hp monks, the ones that costed about 300k to buy the equip for, they used a prot bond build. then anet smashed it with their favourite hammer and introduced dying nightmares to the uw, and so the next bunch of cheaper 55's came along. but the very first bunch did make thousands of ectos and probably sold them for 10k ea.

Ah ... I see. But now that you mention it ... anyone that made that much ecto so early in the game's lifecycle probably did not hold onto it. It must have been very tempting to buy lots of cool stuff, most if which is now quite worthless.

It's funny. While you guys were farming UW, I was farming RA with my 55monk. Oh the memories of hiding in the alcove casting Prot Bond over and over and over until I got that freaking +1.